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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 11:07:22 GMT -5
2 Timothy 3:16 (RSV) 16 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
However, one mistake MANY Christians make IS limiting themselves to ONLY the Bible, therefore, limiting their experience IN Christianity, as the BIBLE is NOT the SOLE source of revelations of truth from the Lord. The SOURCE of the WORD of God is the SPIRIT, Jesus As the SPIRIT, Jesus HIMSELF, who manifests TRUTH to others.
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 17, 2020 21:50:55 GMT -5
Because hundreds of those denominations have rules and interpretations of The Bible, that hundreds of other denominations do not accept. I also think it curious why Christianity should have hundreds of denominations in the first place and yet every denomination claims exclusivity, that is a problem. It isn't escaping me at all, it just is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 22:02:07 GMT -5
Because hundreds of those denominations have rules and interpretations of The Bible, that hundreds of other denominations do not accept. I also think it curious why Christianity should have hundreds of denominations in the first place and yet every denomination claims exclusivity, that is a problem. It isn't escaping me at all, it just is. No, every denomination does NOT claim exclusivity. Each has the basics. ANY Christian denomination that has as it's core the basic tenets are indeed Christian and equal, whether a denomination of Protestantism or Catholic, Orthodox etc. Basics include the Oneness of Jesus and the Father, Jesus is God incarnate and in THAT capacity had the ability to atone for man by his sacrifice on the cross. Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father.On the primary matters they agree. On the secondary matters they disagree and it is here where you see the divisions and denominations.
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 20, 2020 19:24:50 GMT -5
I long ago stated the basis tenet for Christians is accepting The Trinity and that hardly makes an "agreement."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 21:59:43 GMT -5
I long ago stated the basis tenet for Christians is accepting The Trinity and that hardly makes an "agreement." That is BASIC and PRIMARY for ANY Christian.
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 20, 2020 23:01:59 GMT -5
You do not need to keep repeating what I agree with. I'm talking about specifics like Pat Robertson, Osteen, Fallwell jr.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 23:45:21 GMT -5
You do not need to keep repeating what I agree with. I'm talking about specifics like Pat Robertson, Osteen, Fallwell jr. What are those specifics? EVERY CHRISTIAN agrees with these basics. what exactly are you asking?
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 23, 2020 19:39:43 GMT -5
I am asking Christians to walk the talk if you call yourself Christian. Right off the bat in Genesis, God made us in his image. In the Sermon on the Mount/Plains and The Beatitudes are walking with Christ. To many denominations and those with millions and millions of followers do not follow those basic tenets of Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 22:07:08 GMT -5
I am asking Christians to walk the talk if you call yourself Christian. Right off the bat in Genesis, God made us in his image. In the Sermon on the Mount/Plains and The Beatitudes are walking with Christ. To many denominations and those with millions and millions of followers do not follow those basic tenets of Christ. The MANY denominations hold the basics which hold ALL Christians together, that is WHY they are Christian. those who DON'T or alter the basics are NOT Christian, like the Mormons or Jehovah's witnesses.
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 24, 2020 2:27:18 GMT -5
I've already said I disagree, it is not enough to believe, you have to do the really hard bit, accept your fellow man, no matter how different as he is in the image of God, tolerate him and be non judgemental, that is what it means to be a Christian.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 2:32:33 GMT -5
I've already said I disagree, it is not enough to believe, you have to do the really hard bit, accept your fellow man, no matter how different as he is in the image of God, tolerate him and be non judgemental, that is what it means to be a Christian. Christianity is NOT based, nor defined, by what YOU agree or disagree with! Independent tenets and such are in the NT!
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 24, 2020 4:45:55 GMT -5
Maybe not by your rules but it isn't important to me if I say I believe in the Trinity but I don't follow what I see as Christian rules of Christ, who am I then? Is being non judgemental, tolerant, turn the other cheek, any easier for me, hell no. It however gives me acceptance to those who are different from me. It also comes back to me to as being accepted. I also disagree I think Christ's words are extremely defined in certain passages, most is just written by men trying to control the population for power and money, hence the Reformation after 1500 years, which only came up with thousands of new rules and denominations, most seriously freak-o and money grabbing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 5:30:25 GMT -5
Maybe not by your rules but it isn't important to me if I say I believe in the Trinity but I don't follow what I see as Christian rules of Christ, who am I then? Is being non judgemental, tolerant, turn the other cheek, any easier for me, hell no. It however gives me acceptance to those who are different from me. It also comes back to me to as being accepted. I also disagree I think Christ's words are extremely defined in certain passages, most is just written by men trying to control the population for power and money, hence the Reformation after 1500 years, which only came up with thousands of new rules and denominations, most seriously freak-o and money grabbing. If you don't follow the rules laid out in the NT then you are veering away from that which was established and plainly laid out in the NT, frankly making up your own version which then is NOT Christianity. NOT MY RULES. What escapes you? You also have it INCORRECT about MEN writing Christ's words. If that really is your misunderstanding, then you do NOT accept that the NT is genuine. We have enough documents and translations dating back to near the Apostle's time to know that the NT is the real deal. Your DOUBTS have no impact. The last sentence of yours reveals what you don't know and only incorrectly assume!
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 26, 2020 19:44:24 GMT -5
No it doesn't as hundreds of Christian faiths pick and choose, we aren't all on the same page, that is a huge issue. Scripture by many Christian faiths are in interpreted by many depending on that faith. In my younger years, I attended Catholic, S. Baptist, Evangelical, Penecostal services along with my own Episcopalian and the differences from each were magnanimous to claim all Christians because they believe in the Trinity are equal, is ridiculous, they are not! If Wales thinks all Christians are of the same belief, we'd have one Christian faith, not hundreds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 19:52:13 GMT -5
No it doesn't as hundreds of Christian faiths pick and choose, we aren't all on the same page, that is a huge issue. Scripture by many Christian faiths are in interpreted by many depending on that faith. In my younger years, I attended Catholic, S. Baptist, Evangelical, Penecostal services along with my own Episcopalian and the differences from each were magnanimous to claim all Christians because they believe in the Trinity are equal, is ridiculous, they are not! If Wales thinks all Christians are of the same belief, we'd have one Christian faith, not hundreds. Yes it does and if you want to be stubborn, it only means you are INCORRECTLY stubborn, there are NOT hundreds of "Christian faiths" ( here we go around in circles) but ONE faith with MANY denominations. Correct your MISTAKES already! They all have the basics on the primary and differ on secondary issues. Please educate yourself and STOP repeating already discredited ideas.
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Post by katie5445 on Apr 27, 2020 1:13:27 GMT -5
No I'm not going there, there is one Christian religion with hundreds of demoninations with far different rules. THey are not "secondary" but extremely important or all Christians would belong to the same demonination with the same rules, which is not even close. I think you know what I am saying and just being contrary cause it's me. You can go to a Catholic mass, a Baptist, Lutheren, Methodist, Penecostal, Assembly of God, Greek or Russian Orthodox, Evangelical and hundreds more and all be Christians, if it worked for all of us, there would be one Christian demonination/faith that worked for us all and that stopped around the early 1500s with many including new denominations in past centuries into the 20th century. By the way what your faith or demonination is in Christianty, is the same, they are not exclusive.
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