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Post by oldarmybear on Sept 22, 2018 12:09:57 GMT -5
Shutting the Mouths of the Self-Righteous (Romans 3:9-20)
What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; as it is written, “THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.” “THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING,” “THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS”; “WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS”; “THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD, DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS, AND THE PATH OF PEACE HAVE THEY NOT KNOWN.” “THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.” Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, that every mouth may be closed, and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
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Paul declares in Romans 1:18-32 God’s condemnation of all mankind. This condemnation is based upon man’s rejection of God’s self-revelation through creation. Enthusiastically, the self-righteous Jews accept Paul’s words as an indictment of the Gentiles, failing to recognize they too are condemned. In chapter 2 Paul pointedly turns to the Jews, condemning them on the basis of their hypocrisy. They neither live in accordance with the standard by which they judge others guilty nor in accordance with what they teach. Paul presses on in chapter 3 to show the sinfulness of these self-righteous Jews as they justify their own sin, while questioning God’s justice for judging them. In this concluding section of Romans 3:9-20, Paul seeks to silence once and for all the self-righteous Jews. He does this by proving from the Old Testament Scriptures that Jews and Gentiles alike are under sin and worthy of divine judgment. Comparing themselves with others is certainly no basis for their own justification. He reminds the Jews of the function of the Law in their lives: the Law was not given to make them righteous; it was given to show them their unrighteousness.
Read more here: bible.org/seriespage/5-shutting-mouths-self-righteous-romans-39-20
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 16:28:20 GMT -5
Right, you never said that people in the Bible did NOT live to extreme ages, right???
Malagaoth wrote on the first page of this thread:
During Jesus time (assuming that he existed when he is widely believed to have existed) people lived about as long as they do now - or slightly less.
In the early books of the Old Testament it is said that people lived to incredible ages - they didnt , I can prove that they didnt but for the moment lets accept that they did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 17:05:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 19:37:02 GMT -5
No, we arent accepting something you just denied...that does not change the facts, nor does it erase what you said in the sentence before.Your condesending attitude doesn't change what is written in the Bible, nor does it change what you said previously, no matter how it makes you look now. YOU WROTE: In the early books of the Old Testament it is said that people lived to incredible ages - they didnt , I can prove that they didnt but for the moment lets accept that they didnt. That is nothing but a plain denial that they did lived to incredible ages, no matter what you are willing to accept in this discussion. No way you can twist or turn the thing, no way you can agree they lived to extended ages, after saying they did not and have proof that they did not. Go find some one that will buy into the fact that you can't keep your own beliefs straight and your comments headed in the same directions. You are as full of crap as a Christmas goose, and no one here is that stupid, but you! You can pull that liberal on someone else, and claim that it is my misreading that is to blame, but sonny boy... You stated it in black and white (or in red, in this case) and you can' back your butt out of saying just because you want to.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 5:39:27 GMT -5
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Post by george on Nov 25, 2018 7:15:23 GMT -5
Zechariah 5:7---Then a leaden cover was lifted, and there was a woman sitting in the basket! And he said; "This is wickedness" so he thrust her back into the basket and pressed the leaden cover down on it's mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 12:29:03 GMT -5
Mala...I never said it happened thru out the Bible...why not find that and show us where you are right and I am wrong..LOL!
You just can't accept that you did say what you are denying, and your little " we will accept that is did happen" doesn't change that you denied it first. I don't need your acceptance, nor your attitude of "for sake of arguement" addition to the denial. Be a big boy and just admit you can't keep your BS straight and your statements all going in the same direcction from one day to the next...Everyone here knows it, but you! You know, you are really making a fool of yourself with all this....LOL!!!
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Nov 25, 2018 13:59:15 GMT -5
YES I DID WRITE THAT obviously YOU DIDNT READ IT or at least you didnt read the final clause. (or maybe you read it and didnt understand it - I tend to write at above first grade level) Bottom line, in the first few chapters of the Bible people are recorded as living to great ages BUT that only happened at the begining of the Bible NOT throughout 'Biblical times' as you suggested Mala...I never said it happened thru out the Bible...why not find that and show us where you are right and I am wrong..LOL! You just can't accept that you did say what you are denying, and your little " we will accept that is did happen" doesn't change that you denied it first. I don't need your acceptance, nor your attitude of "for sake of arguement" addition to the denial. Be a big boy and just admit you can't keep your straight and your statements all going in the same direcction from one day to the next...Everyone here knows it, but you! You know, you are really making a fool of yourself with all this....LOL!!! LOL Pepper's BS responses are a riot. Pass the ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 14:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by oldarmybear on Nov 25, 2018 14:33:54 GMT -5
Go on an' pick those nits, brother...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 15:46:02 GMT -5
You really need a good dose in reality Mala....What you chose to assume I said and what I really said are two different things...and believe me, no one here is buying into your sad sack story.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 16:03:42 GMT -5
NO, there are two different statements concerning the topic discussed before...One had nothing to do with the other..Now, take you head out of your butt and stop trying to deflect that you actually did say,that people in the Bible did NOT live to older ages than normal. Now...as I have posted in another thread...I am sick and tired of arguing with an immature brat that has to twist and turn everything I say to make points. The Holidays are upon us and you just are not worth my time during this enjoyable season. So you take your assumptions, your interpretations and your immaturity and stick 'em down your chimley...because I simply don't care what you think, I know the truth and you wouldn't know it if it slapped you in the face. Have a nice Christmas...I certainly plan on having a wonderful One.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 16:36:07 GMT -5
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