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Post by themadjw on May 23, 2021 14:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 23:50:20 GMT -5
You asked me that question in response to the question that I had asked you.
That is you did NOT answer my question.
You have spent a LOT MORE time NOT answering that original question. Do you believe in God? simple question and a simple answer from you will move us towards your answer |
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 5, 2021 9:03:34 GMT -5
You know that I've already answered that question in the past.
That question is irrelevant to my question, which you continue to refuse to answer.
That you think that it is relevant and/or that your answer to my question is dependent upon my giving an answer to your question that agrees with your belief is indicative that you cannot answer my question, to wit:
What was the "definite demonstration" that proves that one of the 3 major western religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) is the "correct" one?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 12:33:21 GMT -5
You know that I've already answered that question in the past.
That question is irrelevant to my question, which you continue to refuse to answer.
That you think that it is relevant and/or that your answer to my question is dependent upon my giving an answer to your question that agrees with your belief is indicative that you cannot answer my question, to wit:
What was the "definite demonstration" that proves that one of the 3 major western religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) is the "correct" one? first we have to look at the existence of God, mot if one "believes" or not because that has nothing to do with HIS EXISTENCE. Does God exist or does God NOT exist BUT both conditions cannot be simultaneously true. |
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Post by argy on Jun 5, 2021 19:04:27 GMT -5
You know that I've already answered that question in the past.
That question is irrelevant to my question, which you continue to refuse to answer.
That you think that it is relevant and/or that your answer to my question is dependent upon my giving an answer to your question that agrees with your belief is indicative that you cannot answer my question, to wit:
What was the "definite demonstration" that proves that one of the 3 major western religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) is the "correct" one? first we have to look at the existence of God, mot if one "believes" or not because that has nothing to do with HIS EXISTENCE. Does God exist or does God NOT exist BUT both conditions cannot be simultaneously true.
A good starting point would be to demonstrate that he/she/it exists.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 19:31:48 GMT -5
first we have to look at the existence of God, mot if one "believes" or not because that has nothing to do with HIS EXISTENCE. Does God exist or does God NOT exist BUT both conditions cannot be simultaneously true.
A good starting point would be to demonstrate that he/she/it exists.
Better starting point, tubbytuba, is Does God EXIST or Does God NOT Exist BUT the two cannot exist simultaneously |
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Post by argy on Jun 5, 2021 20:26:41 GMT -5
A good starting point would be to demonstrate that he/she/it exists.
Better starting point, tubbytuba, is Does God EXIST or Does God NOT Exist BUT the two cannot exist simultaneously
I'm beginning to think you have a learning disability. We've gone way past that question. I do not dispute the logical law of the excluded middle, so let's move on.
Are you able to demonstrate, with independently verifiable evidence, that the god you believe in exists - or that any gods exist?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 22:09:36 GMT -5
Better starting point, tubbytuba, is Does God EXIST or Does God NOT Exist BUT the two cannot exist simultaneously
I'm beginning to think you have a learning disability. We've gone way past that question. I do not dispute the logical law of the excluded middle, so let's move on.
Are you able to demonstrate, with independently verifiable evidence, that the god you believe in exists - or that any gods exist?
we've NOT gone way past the question. Simple question as put to bogus also, DOES GOD EXIST or DOES God NOT exist? |
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Post by argy on Jun 5, 2021 22:24:37 GMT -5
Yes, he either exists or he does not exist. No doubt about that. I understand the law of the excluded middle. What's your point?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 22:33:38 GMT -5
Yes, he either exists or he does not exist. No doubt about that. I understand the law of the excluded middle. What's your point? So which side do you fall on? |
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Post by argy on Jun 5, 2021 23:03:07 GMT -5
I am yet to be convinced of the existence of any gods. I am confident none exist, but if someone were to present independently verifiable evidence I could be swayed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 6:14:18 GMT -5
I am yet to be convinced of the existence of any gods. I am confident none exist, but if someone were to present independently verifiable evidence I could be swayed. So your answer along with MANY is that God doesn't exist. There are MANY who accept the Existence of God. You cant both be right AND your simply denying God's existence has no impact on the existence of God. Albert Einstein, a certified genius across the board, because of his observations holds out that the human mind cannot grasp the immensity of the universe. He states that because of the order and after observation one knows there is a force behind the universe. YOU, however, disagree with a measured statement based on what, that YOU don't see evidence. LOL. Are YOU smarter than Einstein?
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Post by argy on Jun 6, 2021 6:54:49 GMT -5
I am yet to be convinced of the existence of any gods. I am confident none exist, but if someone were to present independently verifiable evidence I could be swayed. So your answer along with MANY is that God doesn't exist.
No. You seem to be very stupid. I said that I am yet to be convinced. I am confident that no gods exist, but I am open to being swayed.
And many who do not. What's your point?
Argument from popularity is a logical fallacy.
That sentence doesn't make sense. Would you care to clarify?
Ah! An appeal to authority fallacy. Why am I not surprised?
You have read that into his words. He never said that explicitly.
That's a non-sequitur.
Ah! Another appeal to authority failure. Expertise in gravity does not translate into expertise in god.
How about we look at other geniuses who are atheists? Would their opinion prove that god does not exist?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 8:07:22 GMT -5
So your answer along with MANY is that God doesn't exist.
No. You seem to be very stupid. I said that I am yet to be convinced. I am confident that no gods exist, but I am open to being swayed.
So right now you say God doesn't exist, you cant have it both ways
And many who do not. What's your point?
Argument from popularity is a logical fallacy.
So is your answer, its stupid. You cant read. My POINT is belief has no impact on God's existence
That sentence doesn't make sense. Would you care to clarify? read above
Ah! An appeal to authority fallacy. Why am I not surprised? You are just trying to sidestep that a BRILLIANT mind, MUCH superior to yours contradicts your "view"
You have read that into his words. He never said that explicitly. Yes he did "..The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling
with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which
they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me,
is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws
only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations..." - Albert Einstein
That's a non-sequitur.
Ah! Another appeal to authority failure. Expertise in gravity does not translate into expertise in god. That was Isaac Newton. Read up and familiarize yourself with EXACTLY who Einstein is
How about we look at other geniuses who are atheists? Would their opinion prove that god does not exist? Anyone who is an Atheist is not a genius and NO very few are as brilliant as Einstein as he at LEAST understands his and our limitations, is humble enough to recognize and state so. Through his work he understands the complexity of the universe. and YOUR expertise is..?
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Post by argy on Jun 7, 2021 6:58:46 GMT -5
No. You seem to be very stupid. I said that I am yet to be convinced. I am confident that no gods exist, but I am open to being swayed.
So right now you say God doesn't exist, you cant have it both ways
Ummm.... I just finished saying "I am yet to be convinced" and you say I say "God doesn't exist".
Okay. I understand. English is your second language. Right?
I'm sorry, but your language impairment makes you seem dumb. I have already agreed that belief does not impact on God's existence.
I have moved the discussion beyond that, but if you can't comprehend that I don't see any reason to keep this discussion open.
You have yet to show there is an inconsistency between his words and my interpretation.
I guess that just emphasises your lack of English comprehension. Where were you educated? The deep south??
Wow! Oh, boy! Einstein's theory of general relativity is a theory of gravity. Don't you know that?
Look, I think you're batting out of your league here. Best you keep things simple so you don't hurt yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 7:02:58 GMT -5
Ummm.... I just finished saying "I am yet to be convinced" and you say I say "God doesn't exist".
Okay. I understand. English is your second language. Right?
I'm sorry, but your language impairment makes you seem dumb. I have already agreed that belief does not impact on God's existence.
I have moved the discussion beyond that, but if you can't comprehend that I don't see any reason to keep this discussion open.
You have yet to show there is an inconsistency between his words and my interpretation.
I guess that just emphasises your lack of English comprehension. Where were you educated? The deep south??
Wow! Oh, boy! Einstein's theory of general relativity is a theory of gravity. Don't you know that?
Look, I think you're batting out of your league here. Best you keep things simple so you don't hurt yourself.
when one says presently they see no evidence of God, then they ARE saying that PRESENTLY God doesn't exist. You should ask the institutions that awarded you educational diplomas for your money back. Also When a person says 'uhhhhhhhh' at the beginning of a spoken sentence, it sounds dumb.
For a person to go out of their way to write it into a sentence, mimicking the misspeak of our uneducated youth, it is just stupid!!
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