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Post by themadjw on May 23, 2021 14:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by themadjw on Jun 1, 2021 9:00:46 GMT -5
Dan 2:44- And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever.
Daniel 7: 9 - As I looked, thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. 10 - A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened. 13- In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14-And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Note how the "son of man" is "coming with the clouds"- and prophesied of the Last Days. This takes place in HEAVEN. There is no 3-Person Godhead, with one God giving another God this kingship. The simple- yet dynamic- picture reveals the One TRUE God choosing someone to be the King of Kings.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 9:21:52 GMT -5
Dan 2:44- And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever. Daniel 7: 9 - As I looked, thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. 10 - A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened. 13- In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14-And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Note how the "son of man" is "coming with the clouds"- and prophesied of the Last Days. This takes place in HEAVEN. There is no 3-Person Godhead, with one God giving another God this kingship. The simple- yet dynamic- picture reveals the One TRUE God choosing someone to be the King of Kings. In Jesus' time, there were titles which would describe the messiah/god. Son of Man, Son of god etc. People take these titles more literally than they take the bible. Because jesus was called the son of man , does that mean he was the son of a man?NO. These titles if you will referred to God and the people of the time knew that. Who could atone for man's sins better than God himself. In the jewish faith in the old testament, to wash awys sins, you had to sacrifice an animal at the altar to literally have blood wash these sins away. The scapegoat if you will. Jesus was the scapegoat for man and in his action on the cross, wiped away original sin, not sins man would commit everyday in his imperfection. on whose authority did he do this? HIS own. HE is one with the Father because they are one and the same. The word was GOD and the word was made flesh.
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Post by queenofchefs on Jun 2, 2021 19:28:33 GMT -5
So speaks the Typical Conceited Churchoid. He knows VERY little about the Bible...typically. Wale? You're right, he obviously doesn't. And is definitely conceited about his religion being the only real one, that's incredibly stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 23:12:48 GMT -5
So speaks the Typical Conceited Churchoid. He knows VERY little about the Bible...typically. Wale? You're right, he obviously doesn't. And is definitely conceited about his religion being the only real one, that's incredibly stupid. what IS stupid is you making the idiotic statement YOU did without backup. If you do a comparative study of religions, you'll find that they are in contradiction with each other. The eastern religions, and some are mistakenly labeled as such, while being more in common with ea/other have contradictions and conflicts with each other as well. The western religions , of which there are three major ones ( Christianity, judaism and islam) also contradict each other. Each one has a central point (DOCTIRNE) on which it rests, which conflicts with the central point of the other two. They can't all be right as they conflict with each other. So the question here for now is- Are they all right? Are they all wrong? Is there ONE that is correct? YES, as we have had definite demonstration of that. Because YOU two want to deny this reality doesn't establish your errors as true.
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 3, 2021 10:29:33 GMT -5
... The western religions , of which there are three major ones ( Christianity, judaism and islam) also contradict each other. Each one has a central point (DOCTIRNE) on which it rests, which conflicts with the central point of the other two. They can't all be right as they conflict with each other. So the question here for now is- Are they all right? Are they all wrong? Is there ONE that is correct? YES, as we have had definite demonstration of that. ... What was the "definite demonstration," which I presume you consider to be incontrovertible proof/evidence, that answers the question 'Is ONE of the 3 major western religions correct?'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 13:28:00 GMT -5
... The western religions , of which there are three major ones ( Christianity, judaism and islam) also contradict each other. Each one has a central point (DOCTIRNE) on which it rests, which conflicts with the central point of the other two. They can't all be right as they conflict with each other. So the question here for now is- Are they all right? Are they all wrong? Is there ONE that is correct? YES, as we have had definite demonstration of that. ... What was the "definite demonstration," which I presume you consider to be incontrovertible proof/evidence, that answers the question 'Is ONE of the 3 major western religions correct?'first we have to look at the existence of God, mot if one "believes" or not because that has nothing to do with HIS EXISTENCE. Does God exist or does God NOT exist BUT both conditions cannot be simultaneously true.
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 3, 2021 14:07:03 GMT -5
... The western religions , of which there are three major ones ( Christianity, judaism and islam) also contradict each other. Each one has a central point (DOCTIRNE) on which it rests, which conflicts with the central point of the other two. They can't all be right as they conflict with each other. So the question here for now is- Are they all right? Are they all wrong? Is there ONE that is correct? YES, as we have had definite demonstration of that. ... What was the "definite demonstration," which I presume you consider to be incontrovertible proof/evidence, that answers the question 'Is ONE of the 3 major western religions correct?'first we have to look at the existence of God,... No. We do not have to first look at that.
Just answer the question.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 14:36:40 GMT -5
first we have to look at the existence of God,... No. We do not have to first look at that.
Just answer the question.
YEs we DO have to first look at that otherwise YOU then ask, not in a serious manner but in a contemptuous one falsely equating that if the answer doesn't suit you then God doesn't exist. SO, first we ask Does God exist OR Does he NOT exist? There cannot be a simultaneous co existence of those two conditions, can there?
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 4, 2021 1:57:32 GMT -5
Wale, that you wish to maneuver the discussion away from answering a simple question concerning your rather declarative statement that unmistakably implied that there has been a "definite demonstration" that one of the 3 major western religions is "correct", i.e. proven true (I merely asked what was that "definite demonstration"), is a clear indication that you cannot, or refuse to answer because you know that such a "definite demonstration" never happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 6:50:35 GMT -5
Wale, that you wish to maneuver the discussion away from answering a simple question concerning your rather declarative statement that unmistakably implied that there has been a "definite demonstration" that one of the 3 major western religions is "correct", i.e. proven true (I merely asked what was that "definite demonstration"), is a clear indication that you cannot, or refuse to answer because you know that such a "definite demonstration" never happened.
First we have to look at the existence of God because YOU aren't a believer in that REALITY therefore you responses earlier and now will be couched in those incorrect views
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 4, 2021 8:55:35 GMT -5
Wale, you are just confirming the truth of my previous post on this thread. To wit:Wale, that you wish to maneuver the discussion away from answering a simple question concerning your rather declarative statement that unmistakably implied that there has been a "definite demonstration" that one of the 3 major western religions is "correct", i.e. proven true (I merely asked what was that "definite demonstration"), is a clear indication that you cannot, or refuse to answer because you know that such a "definite demonstration" never happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 9:05:40 GMT -5
Wale, you are just confirming the truth of my previous post on this thread. To wit:Wale, that you wish to maneuver the discussion away from answering a simple question concerning your rather declarative statement that unmistakably implied that there has been a "definite demonstration" that one of the 3 major western religions is "correct", i.e. proven true (I merely asked what was that "definite demonstration"), is a clear indication that you cannot, or refuse to answer because you know that such a "definite demonstration" never happened.
No Im not. That is YOUR way of shifting from answering in the exchange. you also want to define how one answers and exactly what one answers, just see previous posts
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 4, 2021 9:20:46 GMT -5
LOL Yes, Wale, if we look at the previous posts it will become obvious that it is YOU who is "shifting from answering in the exchange." By the way, you have now graduated from deflecting and dodging the question to outright lying.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 10:23:14 GMT -5
LOL Yes, Wale, if we look at the previous posts it will become obvious that it is YOU who is "shifting from answering in the exchange." By the way, you have now graduated from deflecting and dodging the question to outright lying. No shifting, I asked a question to which you have spent a LOT of time NOT answering which HAD you answered we would have progressed towards your answer
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 4, 2021 10:51:37 GMT -5
You asked me that question in response to the question that I had asked you. That is you did NOT answer my question. You have spent a LOT MORE time NOT answering that original question.
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