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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 11:07:22 GMT -5
2 Timothy 3:16 (RSV) 16 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
However, one mistake MANY Christians make IS limiting themselves to ONLY the Bible, therefore, limiting their experience IN Christianity, as the BIBLE is NOT the SOLE source of revelations of truth from the Lord. The SOURCE of the WORD of God is the SPIRIT, Jesus As the SPIRIT, Jesus HIMSELF, who manifests TRUTH to others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 21:27:14 GMT -5
Christianity was defined for hundreds of years by the Pope.... and if one is old enough the remember the grief Kennedy got as a Catholic running for president...... When did I say God didn't exist, I do believe in God and you can add judgement day, not universal salvation and I believe we are spirits, If I didn't I wouldn't bothered My point is Christian faiths do practice differently as do Jews and even Muslims. When I was in Turkey I was shocked to see Muslims consume alcohol and in vast amounts. I was surprised reading of a Muslim sect, that practices, peace, love and ohmmmm but then I was surprised that all Muslims aren't weird or terrorists as well. That came with the integration I experienced in London. Persons choose different faiths for a reason just as one chooses their politics and because I don't believe in Noah's Ark to laying on of hands to rapture, so what? That makes me all the names you call me? There are enough horrible humans in this world we could agree on, yet I seem to be yours........ The DOCTRINE of Christianity is ONE, despite different DENOMINATIONS, not "faiths". Christianity was NO defined for hundreds of years by the Pope BUT the Pope was a custodian of the Christian Doctrine. YOU don't know your history nor chronology of Christianity. THAT is why you make so many errors!
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 22, 2020 22:17:27 GMT -5
Um, different denominations are called different faiths. "Custodian" of what, does that mean and you might as well claim The Reformation was useless?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 0:16:11 GMT -5
Um, different denominations are called different faiths. "Custodian" of what, does that mean and you might as well claim The Reformation was useless? When a person says 'umm' at the begiinig of a spoken sentence, it sounds dumb. For a person to go out of their way to write it into a sentence, mimicking the mispeak of our uneducated youth, it is just stupid. Different DENOMINATIONS are not called 'faiths'!! The Pope was the custodian of the Christian Church when there was ONLY one and continues as the custodian of the Catholic Church today
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Post by oldarmybear on Aug 23, 2020 14:01:57 GMT -5
Um, different denominations are called different faiths. "Custodian" of what, does that mean and you might as well claim The Reformation was useless? When a person says 'umm' at the begiinig of a spoken sentence, it sounds dumb. For a person to go out of their way to write it into a sentence, mimicking the mispeak of our uneducated youth, it is just stupid. Different DENOMINATIONS are not called 'faiths'!! The Pope was the custodian of the Christian Church when there was ONLY one and continues as the custodian of the Catholic Church today
Correction, Wale, the Pope is only custodian of the Roman Catholic Church. There is a difference. Read your bible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 16:10:55 GMT -5
When a person says 'umm' at the begiinig of a spoken sentence, it sounds dumb. For a person to go out of their way to write it into a sentence, mimicking the mispeak of our uneducated youth, it is just stupid. Different DENOMINATIONS are not called 'faiths'!! The Pope was the custodian of the Christian Church when there was ONLY one and continues as the custodian of the Catholic Church today
Correction, Wale, the Pope is only custodian of the Roman Catholic Church. There is a difference. Read your bible. WRONG BEAR. At the outset of Christianity, beginning around 33ad at Pentecost, there was only ONE Christian Church until 1054 AD and up t that time, the Pope ( the successors of Peter) was the leader of the Christian Church, until other factions broke off and ONLY then was the Pope the leader of ONLY the Catholic Church! The New Testament specifically points out that Peter was directly made the Leader of the Church by Jesus. Peter headquartered in Rome. Peter's successors were chosen, always have been and continue to be chosen in Rome.
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 24, 2020 21:27:14 GMT -5
It not only proves nothing but his knowledge begins and ends with looking up Bible quotes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 22:44:21 GMT -5
It not only proves nothing but his knowledge begins and ends with looking up Bible quotes. Your stupid, uninformed and ignorant remark here is supposed to mean something?
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 27, 2020 22:34:39 GMT -5
Who do you think you are, Donald Trump? All you got is name calling, grow up it's not that big of a deal. That I see it different than you, so do millions doesn't mean you have to be such a pillock.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 23:40:22 GMT -5
Who do you think you are, Donald Trump? All you got is name calling, grow up it's not that big of a deal. That I see it different than you, so do millions doesn't mean you have to be such a pillock. NO, wrong on BOTH counts. CHRISTIANITY is based on a DOCTRINE composed of a number of basic precepts. YOU continually state YOU call yourself A Christian based on a false set of assumptions originating with and from YOU, NOT from adhering to the precepts. CHRISTIANITY is NOT a based on one's self definition or multi perceptions. YOU have been given PROPER information REPEATEDLY which YOU reject and ridicule. THAT makes YOU wrong,ignorant and STUPID!
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 28, 2020 0:54:39 GMT -5
Then why are there so many Christian faiths, if it's all the same? Why when you go to these churches do you hear such differences? My perspective isn't based on so called "assumptions," it's based on going to different Christian faiths and witnessing extreme differences. "Proper" information from you, cause you look up Bible quotes, seriously? I've been given "proper" information by several accepted Christian faiths, enough to make my head spin. Is there any way, you can sometimes talk normal? If you are a Christian, you really trash talk with every post you make, hardly Christian.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 1:22:39 GMT -5
Then why are there so many Christian faiths, if it's all the same? Why when you go to these churches do you hear such differences? My perspective isn't based on so called "assumptions," it's based on going to different Christian faiths and witnessing extreme differences. "Proper" information from you, cause you look up so many Christian faiths, seriously? I've been given "proper" information by several accepted Christian faiths, enough to make my head spin. Is there any way, you can sometimes talk normal? If you are a Christian, you really trash talk with every post you make, hardly Christian. HEERE WE GO AROUND IN CIRCLES. There aren't " so many Christian faiths ". There is ONE DOCTRINE, Many denominations. The differences you hear are many misinterpretations of the SAME DOCTRINE, the SAME Bible. PROPER INFORMATION is just that. Your comment about " Bible quotes" reveals you have NO understanding of the Bible OR it's significance. You don't know the chronology AND history of the Church from it's outset. You've NOT been given proper information as the content of your responses reveal! Christianity began when 40 days AFTER Christ ascended into heaven and the SPIRIT was conferred onto the Apostles. They were EMPOWERED by the SPIRIT. The SAME SPIRIT, who IS God , who IS JESUS, was the power behind the INSPIRED writing of the Scriptures, meaning that the WORDS contained IN the writings are of DIVINE origin, not human origin. In other words, it is CHRIST speaking THROUGH the person of Paul, Peter, Mark, Luke etc!
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 29, 2020 20:59:20 GMT -5
I think I might check out how long the Bible took to write. I think I would also do more reading on religious history and The Reformation. I am not disputing that Christ ascended into Heaven, the spirit of God, is Jesus. If you are Christian you believe in The Trinity, that is a no brainer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 22:03:48 GMT -5
I think I might check out how long the Bible took to write. I think I would also do more reading on religious history and The Reformation. I am not disputing that Christ ascended into Heaven, the spirit of God, is Jesus. If you are Christian you believe in The Trinity, that is a no brainer. How long it "took the Bible to write" is of NO consequence or importance. The Lord, through divine inspiration. is the author throughout. The TIME factor is irrelevant! YOU should read and understand Christianity from the OUTSET and MOVING forwards! Christianity did NOT begin with the Reformation AND they made foundational errors!
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 30, 2020 0:54:19 GMT -5
But the rules seriously changed during the Reformation and Protestants broke out into many faiths with many believing very different ideologies. That isn't my fault.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 8:47:18 GMT -5
But the rules seriously changed during the Reformation and Protestants broke out into many faiths with many believing very different ideologies. That isn't my fault. THAT is one area you are completely in error. The BASIS for Christianity is contained in the pages of the Scriptures, WHICH the Protestants SAY they adhere to but it seems ONLY when it is convenient for them. The "rules" DIDN'T change during the reformation and if they DID, it was NOT by the authority of the Lord, it was by their OWN human authority which makes their "changes" then incorrect. If you study the CHRONOLOGY of Christianity from the BEGINNING, you will see that it's ESTABLISHMENT is of DIVINE origin. The reformation began from HUMAN origin/intervention some 1500 years LATER, thereby already delegitimizing the authenticity of the movement. At the outset of the reformation under Martin Luther, it was asserted that Christianity was being brought back to it's foundation, when actually human interference introduced many errors. The ONLY thing the reformation did was to make subsequent groups incorrectly feel that they could breakaway whenever disputes or disagreements arose. Martin Luther, under his OWN authority and NOT DIVINE authority edited out some books of the Bible that were contained when the Bible was codified some 1200 years BEFORE, thus creating MORE confusion and division, not less. Christianity began and was instituted @ 33AD through the empowerment of Jesus' Spirit ( the Holy Spirit) upon the Apostles and their endeavors. They had the AUTHORITY to EXPLAIN, PREACH and ARTICULATE what Christianity was and IS. They left behind their teaching to their followers/successors along with supplemental writing ( Scriptures) doing the same. No immediate, or subsequent followers had any right or authority to "change" or modify that.
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