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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 10:48:27 GMT -5
created for man, or was man created for baptism. jerry
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Post by oldarmybear on Dec 21, 2018 16:14:30 GMT -5
It is my opinion that Baptism is a witness to others that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior. We are baptized in obedience to God. Baptism is not a prerequisite to salvation, rather it is an act to honor our Savior.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 16:25:34 GMT -5
created for man, or was man created for baptism. jerry Man was created....first...so..... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 17:34:27 GMT -5
i have concluded in my studies that the key to the jesus ministry was the relationship between he and john. esoterically, the premise was and still is that man has a spritual death, and as we were born by our mothers who nourished us with the living waters inside them, so can all men be reborn via the living waters act of baptism.
jerry
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Post by katie5445 on Dec 28, 2018 3:41:10 GMT -5
Which leads me to, should I have saved my amniotic fluid as living waters?
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Post by oldarmybear on Jan 16, 2019 15:33:37 GMT -5
That was totally uncalled, Katie. I thought better of you than this implies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 7:27:51 GMT -5
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
I disagree Bear, I believe this verse verifies that Baptism is a requirement to be saved. To answer the thread question, what would be the purpose of Baptism, if it were not for man. Baptism was created for man.
To clarify the second part of the verse, one has to believe before Baptism, thus making believing the first step of two to be saved. Without believing, there is no point or reason to be baptised. Thus making the second step dependent on the first.
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Post by oldarmybear on Jan 17, 2019 16:15:48 GMT -5
Here is what I believe as a Southern Baptist... The Romans Road Verses We are all sinners (Rom. 3:10,23). The wages of our sins is death (Rom. 6:23). Jesus paid our sin debt on the cross (Rom. 5:8). Salvation comes by faith, that is, by confessing with our mouths and believing in our hearts (Rom. 10:9,10). Call on the Lord for salvation and get saved (Rom. 10:13). Romans Road to Salvation | Romans Road Verses - Gospel www.evangelicaloutreach.org/romans-road.htm. |
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Post by oldarmybear on Jan 17, 2019 16:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 16:57:33 GMT -5
When you find a verse that says baptism is not needed to be saved, let me know...Until then, I will stick to my guns on this one.
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Post by oldarmybear on Jan 25, 2019 11:02:43 GMT -5
Here is another look at baptism/salvation, Pickle. If you will recall the crucifixion of Christ when the thief next to him asked that Christ Remember him in his Kingdom, Christ told him that today you shall be with me in paradise, there was no baptism needed for the thief. If there was no need for baptism for the thief to be saved why would there be need for us to be baptized to be saved also?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 15:26:15 GMT -5
Well, Bear, I would consider that a very special event and not at all what we are commanded to do for salvation. I just don't think that stands to reason to be what is expected from the rest of us...but, that's my opinion.
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Post by oldarmybear on Jan 27, 2019 14:30:31 GMT -5
Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is LORD," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
There are many more if you will look with an open mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 18:32:03 GMT -5
So....you just ignore Mark 16:16?
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Post by oldarmybear on Jan 28, 2019 1:56:52 GMT -5
So you just ignore the rest?
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