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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Mar 22, 2021 13:40:23 GMT -5
I want someone to give me one good reason to support an ideology and/or a religion that wants me not only dead, but tortured for eternity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 19:27:26 GMT -5
There is NO such thing as HOMOPHOBIA. A phobia is a FEAR of something, taken from the Greek word. There are many, in fact a majority, who STILL legitimately see the homosexual lifestyle as wrong. That is not a fear. THAT is a legitimate disapproval of a behavior society has deemed throughout history to be deviant and apart from normal. Those who are IGNORANT and have and no argument try to marginalize that legitimate objection, incorrectly , to a "phobia" which is non existent. NO HOMOPHOBIA therefore NO HOMPHOBES.
You do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people, don't you?
No because there is NO such thing as HOMOPHOBIA.
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 14, 2021 21:56:11 GMT -5
You're right on one point, Wale. It doesn't carry the same. It carries more as more real, as opposed to imagined, people can see the inaccuracy of your claims about me and the obvious accuracy of my observations concerning you.
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Post by argy on Jun 15, 2021 6:48:50 GMT -5
Adultery is as well, shouldn't my opinion on one be equally dispensed as the other? I make it known that both are sins. A divorced person who remarries is as guilty of sins of the flesh as a person who acts on same sex attraction. As a Catholic, do you give an equal voice to these two sins? Jesus himself talked about the difficulty of marriage to the point where the Apostles were asking him if it wasn't better to not get married (see Matthew 19:10). I think this is a difficult topic and needs to be addressed in a manner that points to a greater happiness, a greater joy and promise. I find it unproductive to reduce it to how we use our genitals. We are children of God, we are loved. Let's begin there. No, lets begin with what Scripture ( God's INSPIRED word) tells us:
Leviticus 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Romans 1:26-27 ESV For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 7:2 ESV But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
1 Timothy 1:10 ESV The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
(just a few for a start)
Do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people?
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Post by argy on Jun 15, 2021 6:49:47 GMT -5
You do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people, don't you?
No because there is NO such thing as HOMOPHOBIA.
I didn't ask about homophobia.
Do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 9:30:26 GMT -5
No, lets begin with what Scripture ( God's INSPIRED word) tells us:
Leviticus 18:22 ESV You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Romans 1:26-27 ESV For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 7:2 ESV But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
1 Timothy 1:10 ESV The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
(just a few for a start)
Do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people?
No but I recognize their abnormality also and do not try to normalize their dysfunction. BTW- Are YOU a homosexual?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 9:31:26 GMT -5
No because there is NO such thing as HOMOPHOBIA.
I didn't ask about homophobia.
Do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people?
No but I recognize their abnormality also and do not try to normalize their dysfunction. Homosexuals know this as well deep down. BTW- Are YOU a homosexual?
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 15, 2021 11:40:50 GMT -5
I didn't ask about homophobia. Do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people?
No but I recognize their abnormality also and do not try to normalize their dysfunction. Homosexuals know this as well deep down.BTW- Are YOU a homosexual? First Wale, referencing what I've highlighted in your post, don't give up your day job to become a mindreader, because you have zero talent for it. Second, you are most certainly prejudiced against gay people. Your rhetoric and your religious beliefs that you've articulated make that fact quite apparent. Third, your demeaning, insulting, and mocking rhetoric directed at myself and gay males in general certainly speaks to an underlying dislike/disdain, perhaps even animus, towards gays. Fourth, why are you repeatedly asking Argy if he's (I'm assuming gender, correct me if I'm wrong Argy) homosexual? If you truly had no dislike or prejudice towards homosexuals, there would be no reason to ask that question.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 12:04:13 GMT -5
First Wale, referencing what I've highlighted in your post, don't give up your day job to become a mindreader, because you have zero talent for it. Second, you are most certainly prejudiced against gay people. Your rhetoric and your religious beliefs that you've articulated make that fact quite apparent.A LEGITIMATE disapproval of the homosexual lifestyle is NOT a prejudice simply because it conflicts with your confused views. Third, your demeaning, insulting, and mocking rhetoric directed at myself and gay males in general certainly speaks to an underlying dislike/disdain, perhaps even animus, towards gays.A LEGITIMATE disapproval of the homosexual lifestyle is NOT a prejudice simply because it conflicts with your confused views. Fourth, why are you repeatedly asking Argy if he's (I'm assuming gender, correct me if I'm wrong Argy) homosexual? If you truly had no dislike or prejudice towards homosexuals, there would be no reason to ask that question.There are MANY reasons to ask and for YOU to ASSign your own misinterpretation ON TOP of a real one seems to reflect your disdain for ANY views contrary to yours. Let OOGY answer the question first and WHY are YOU running interference for OOGY?
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 15, 2021 13:16:14 GMT -5
Wale, ridiculously tacking on the word "LEGITIMATE," in all caps no less, to the word "disapproval" (synonyms: dislike, disdain, distaste, etc.) does nothing to hide or ameliorate what is your most obvious prejudice towards homosexuals, nor does repeating it in mindless rote fashion. It would no doubt come as a surprise to you that a person's "lifestyle" is made up of many, many factors, only one of which involves their sexual orientation. That you boil down the entirety of a person to that single factor and judge, demean, and mock them for it is just one more indication that you most likely than not harbor a great dislike and animus towards homosexuals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 13:26:39 GMT -5
Wale, ridiculously tacking on the word "LEGITIMATE," in all caps no less, to the word "disapproval" (synonyms: dislike, disdain, distaste, etc.) does nothing to hide or ameliorate what is your most obvious prejudice towards homosexuals, nor does repeating it in mindless rote fashion. It would no doubt come as a surprise to you that a person's "lifestyle" is made up of many, many factors, only one of which involves their sexual orientation.So does a drug addict, a rapist, a pedophile, etc and homosexuals are on that side of the spectrum That you boil down the entirety of a person to that single factor and judge, demean, and mock them for it is just one more indication that you most likely than not harbor a great dislike and animus towards homosexuals. I recognize the dysfunction, the abnormality that homosexuality is. You BEING a homosexual is like asking a pig if he thinks he is filthy.
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Post by Bogus0Pomp on Jun 15, 2021 14:42:22 GMT -5
Once again, Wale, you show your deep animus towards homosexuals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 15:45:10 GMT -5
Once again, Wale, you show your deep animus towards homosexuals. No , ACTUALLY you reveal your repetitive rejection of the fact that there is legitimate opposition to homosexuality that crosses many spectrums.
"..Hungary’s parliament has passed a law banning gay people from featuring in school educational materials or TV shows for under-18s, as Viktor Orbán’s ruling party intensified its campaign against LGBT rights..." www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/15/hungary-passes-law-banning-lbgt-content-in-schools
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Post by samnouns on Jun 15, 2021 21:31:15 GMT -5
Hungary's parliament isn't an example of legitimate opposition that crosses many spectrums. It's an example of a legislative body that agrees with your views.
You're confusing dysfunction and abnormality with things like prevalence.
Homosexuality is completely natural, but not as prevalent as heterosexuality. Kind of like how green eyes are natural, but not as prevalent as brown eyes. Really not as mystifying as you'd like it to be.
Kudos on the Hungarian parliament reference, though. That's a good illustration of a certain type of person who advocates for "limited government." You know, the kind that advocates that the government should stay out of the affairs of individuals, and not interfere with the "liberty" etc. of individuals.
Here's the fun part: It's small g stuff when you're getting it, but you want that Big G just sticking it to the groups that you don't like. That State Power to hold down and violate the people you consider deviant and unfit. Interesting stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 23:19:24 GMT -5
Hungary's parliament isn't an example of legitimate opposition that crosses many spectrums. It's an example of a legislative body that agrees with your views. Its an example of somewhere people making official their legitimate opposition. That it doesn't align with your absurd thinking doesn't de-legitimize it. You're confusing dysfunction and abnormality with things like prevalence. No Im not actually YOU are. simply becase something exists doesn't make for its normalcyHomosexuality is completely natural, but not as prevalent as heterosexuality. Kind of like how green eyes are natural, but not as prevalent as brown eyes. Really not as mystifying as you'd like it to be. That has been used before and is stupid nonsense. On YOUR basis then pedophilia is completely natural, which also is absurd.Kudos on the Hungarian parliament reference, though. That's a good illustration of a certain type of person who advocates for "limited government." You know, the kind that advocates that the government should stay out of the affairs of individuals, and not interfere with the "liberty" etc. of individuals. Your attempt at blending legitimate functions of government with protecting the deviancy that is homosexuality fails bigHere's the fun part: It's small g stuff when you're getting it, but you want that Big G just sticking it to the groups that you don't like. That State Power to hold down and violate the people you consider deviant and unfit. Interesting stuff. Interesting is that you haven't a clue and yet move forwards on that confused basis dumbnouns
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Post by argy on Jun 16, 2021 2:29:08 GMT -5
I didn't ask about homophobia.
Do you have a dislike or prejudice against gay people?
No but I recognize their abnormality also and do not try to normalize their dysfunction. Homosexuals know this as well deep down.
What is their abnormality? What is their dysfunction?
Please explain in detail. In the process, can you please explain why homosexual has been observed in every species studied, from fruit flies to horses to chimps and humans.
Come over here and I'll give you a big wet kiss. Then we can talk about it.
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