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Post by pepper on Jul 26, 2019 13:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by pepper on Aug 11, 2019 16:29:56 GMT -5
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Post by skrumpie on Aug 11, 2019 16:50:16 GMT -5
It is folly to suggest that the powers that be in the Democratic Socialist Party, and that's what Democrats have become, do not support open borders. Now, does that mean that every sentient being who is liberal supports same? No, it does not. But to argue that the candidates running, and the people serving in that party do not support open borders is just ludicrous.
If you want amnesty for millions of people who came here illegally, then you are supporting open borders.
If you don't want any of those people stopped at the border, provided they cross at an actual border crossing, and sent packing right back home, then you are supporting open borders.
If you actually buy into the fairytale that hundreds of thousands of people are suddenly fleeing for their lives and will pass through other countries that are safer for them, because they are UNKNOWN there, you are supporting open borders.
If you support catch and release, then you are supporting open borders. These are not feral cats we're talking about, that are caught, given medical treatment, sterilized and returned, these are people. What is the point of catch and release?
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Post by pepper on Aug 11, 2019 17:20:14 GMT -5
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 18, 2019 22:57:16 GMT -5
It is folly to suggest that the powers that be in the Democratic Socialist Party, and that's what Democrats have become, do not support open borders. Now, does that mean that every sentient being who is liberal supports same? No, it does not. But to argue that the candidates running, and the people serving in that party do not support open borders is just ludicrous.
If you want amnesty for millions of people who came here illegally, then you are supporting open borders.
If you don't want any of those people stopped at the border, provided they cross at an actual border crossing, and sent packing right back home, then you are supporting open borders.
If you actually buy into the fairytale that hundreds of thousands of people are suddenly fleeing for their lives and will pass through other countries that are safer for them, because they are UNKNOWN there, you are supporting open borders.
If you support catch and release, then you are supporting open borders. These are not feral cats we're talking about, that are caught, given medical treatment, sterilized and returned, these are people. What is the point of catch and release?
Well I dont support amnesty for every person that comes here and since I'm accused of and that party amnesty is not a given it doesn't matter what dems say. Do I believe hundreds of thousands can flee at one time how about the Nazis or more current those from the former yugoslavia and surrounding countries? I once saw thousands of Albanians making there way to France. Expats by the millions in the ME have fled all over the world starting with the fall of the Shah in Iran to Hussien in Iraq to Quadaffi in Libya. None from Jews to Muslims did't quite fit in this country for certain people.
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Post by pepper on Aug 22, 2019 17:56:37 GMT -5
So you are comparing Mexicans to those fleeing from the ME, Iraq, and Libya? Are you serious? Those are war-torn places and they fled from death, starvation, and rape. Mexicans are not fleeing from Mexico for that kind of reasons. They see a fruit basket held by democrats to be given to any sob that can vote when they legalize illegals voting and they will in time. You can argue with that until the cows come home, but it is a known fact why democrats are for open borders, despite you refusal to accept the fact.
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 24, 2019 0:03:25 GMT -5
Mexicans, what Mexicans, you mean those escaping violence in Central America? A known fact, that is your known fact, that you want to turn it around to your fact, doesn't count, there is no way that one can say the dem party is up for open borders and kumbaya, that is bullshit, although quite lovely to think of rather like nirvana, lovely thought, impossible to achieve. You want to dumb dems down to that, not happening my dear.
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Post by pepper on Aug 24, 2019 8:16:05 GMT -5
Your denial that democrats want open borders already proves that they (democrats) are already dumbed down.
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 26, 2019 20:26:38 GMT -5
And your opinion "because they do," is worth shit.
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Post by pepper on Aug 27, 2019 18:44:36 GMT -5
That is just it...It is not an opinion, it is fact. You simply refuse to admit it!
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 29, 2019 2:40:56 GMT -5
I feel sorry for you all, who ever did this to you it is, well figure it out I think its horrid.
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Post by skrumpie on Aug 29, 2019 7:42:45 GMT -5
The problem with the left in general is that they cannot get their stories straight.
On the one hand, they weep and emote about people fleeing for their lives, on the other hand, 2/3 of El Salvadore they willingly allowed through the border, most of those are men who are MS13, we know pretty much where they are and how they operate, they are VERY violent and perpetrating same here, and when they are caught, it is the LEFT who offers them sanctuary.
It is the LEFT who offers them free legal counsel. It is the LEFT who, after these people have raped, murdered, disemboweled, dismembered, set on fire their victims, who then turn right around and tell us they are fleeing for their lives, and we have to take them in, and they compare them to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany.
The left is deranged. Totally and completely deranged. They proved long ago that the last person they care about in this country is the American citizen, regardless of their race or ethnicity.
They are trying to grow voters, and they don't care who suffers. They don't care what becomes of the country or its citizens. They want power. They are desperate for it.
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Post by pepper on Aug 29, 2019 10:57:29 GMT -5
Power and Control is the main goal set by the left...Gun removal and drag those foreigners in and give them the vote is high on their list of accomplishments to reach that goal...And anyone that can not see that has their head in the sand, or just dumber than a box of rocks...Which are you, Katie?
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Post by katie5445 on Aug 31, 2019 23:08:44 GMT -5
Oh my, from Trump to both Clintons to McConnell to Pelosi, it is all about power & control. I have learned when you choose a republic instead of a democracy, that is what you get. Well what I think is I'm not as dumb as a "box of rocks" or have my "head in the sand." If you are as bright as you say you are, I would think you would be able to tolerate an opposite opinion far better than you do than just name calling...........which leads me to put you in a box of I can't think beyond my own opinion nor will I strain my brain to do so.
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Post by pepper on Sept 1, 2019 9:23:22 GMT -5
Yeah, uh-huh...You are the one that can never support your claims, opinions, or so-called facts with sources or documentation. So, don't bother going there. I didn't call you names...I asked which one you are...Didn't I? I don't think you are actually dumb as a box of rocks, but I think you do hide your head in the sand to keep from seeing what you don't want to see. That is not a name, thank you! And, I do believe that several here might tend to agree with me. Now whether you agree or not, just proves that I am right. I support 90% of my opinions with sources, facts, documentation, so if you just bothered to do the same and strain your brain once in a while, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Would we?
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Post by katie5445 on Sept 3, 2019 0:44:14 GMT -5
Several here "might agree" that would not be surprising! You ramble like a mad woman. In those links you rarely provide, try some George Will or go back to Charles Kruthammer or try Judge Napolitano.
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